John and Lynn’s first guest is Steve Ellis, CEO of Vutiliti. Vutiliti enables residential, commercial and government users to view their utility usage be it gas, water or electric in real-time. Their product helps users to become aware of utility costs, drives down utility bills, and conserves the natural resources used in utility generation. The 2nd guest is a previously aired episode.....Mark O’Connell who has written THE CLOSE ENCOUNTERS MAN: How One Man Made the World Believe in UFOs. The book is about Dr. J. Allen Hynek responsible for coining the phrase “close encounters of the third kind” Hynek enthusiastically debunked UFO reports on behalf of the Air Force for years. Then, he changed teams.